In the wake of firings and program disruptions at WBAI, a rather
remarkable bit of audio has surfaced that paints a vivid picture
of some of the behind the scenes turmoil that went on in the early
months of the crisis.
The audio has appeared on several web sites over the past week and has
also been played over the air on several occasions. 2600 has obtained
an unedited version of the tape and it is available here.
The release of the tape at this point in time is significant as it
comes in the midst of yet another battle at WBAI, this time
concerning the most widely listened to program on the Pacifica
Network, "Democracy Now!" Since Tuesday, August 14, the program
has been originating from an alternate location after host Amy
Goodman determined that the station had become a hostile environment.
While "Democracy Now!" has aired over the Internet and on some
radio stations, the Pacifica Network has been airing repeats.
A grievance was filed by Goodman to the American Federation of
Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA). While initially it appeared
as if AFTRA had sided with Pacifica by urging Goodman to return to
the station, they issued a new statement within the last few days
saying that they were "no longer satisfied that the WBAI studios are
a safe and appropriate working environment for the 'Democracy Now!'
staff." It's widely assumed that the above mentioned tape found its
way into their hands and helped to change their minds.
On the tape, which takes place inside the studio during a music break
on the now cancelled "Wakeup Call" of February 6, 2001 (the on-air
portion of which is also included here), an argument
between co-hosts Amy Goodman and Clayton Riley was captured. Newsman
Robert Knight (recently thrown off the air by WBAI management)
is also heard on the tape defending Goodman. Riley is heard to
be shouting at the two of them and using obscenities as well as
racial epithets. According to
statements issued by Goodman, this kind of repeated behavior had made the
WBAI studios into an unsafe environment. Pacifica has yet to issue
a comment on the audio captured on this tape. But their website
does contain a statement claiming that they have reached an agreement
with AFTRA which requires that Goodman return to the station
immediately. However, John Connolly, AFTRA's president, says that this is outdated
information that doesn't reflect their current position and that
"We have instructed them that they do not have the right to use any statements from
AFTRA that are not current and are not reflective of our current policy."
On Monday, another repeat of "Democracy Now!" was aired over Pacifica
along with headlines from Feature Story News, a syndicated news service that originates outside of
Pacifica.
ON-AIR SEGMENT WHICH LED TO OFF-AIR TAPE
ACTUAL BROADCAST
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During a contentious call-in segment where callers are challenging
Riley's defense of the station's takeover, a caller utters a racial
epithet at around 12 minutes into the segment. Riley accuses Goodman
of being responsible for such statements. At around 16 minutes into
the segment, Robert Knight begins his newscast by defending Goodman
and is cut off. It is immediately after this that the off-air
argument was captured on tape.
TRANSCRIPT OF TAPE
OFF-AIR ARGUMENT
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WBAI / WAKE UP CALL
Feb. 6, 2001 ~7:15am
Audio begins with listener calls and on-air exchange
between Amy Goodman [AG], Clayton Riley [CR]
and Robert Knight [RK].
After a crank caller blurts a racial epithet, Riley blames
Goodman, whom Knight subsequently defends during
customary greeting and chit-chat. Engineer Mark Linton
[ML] then cuts off studio microphones as "conservatory
quality jazz" plays in the background.
According to Robert Knight:
"Two hours later, in the office of Interim General Manager
Utrice C. Leid, and in the presence of members of her
core staff, I was accosted, assaulted, and/or menaced by
Riley, who stood over me as I was seated. He gripped my
knees between his legs, rendering me immobile, while
gesticulating in a wild and threatening manner."
These events are referenced in a 8/20/2001 letter from
the staff of "Democracy Now!" who stated:
"Several months ago, Clayton physically moved in on
WBAI reporter Robert Knight for coming to Amy's defense,
shouting repeatedly 'Stop kissing the ass of that white
bitch.' Minutes later, he assaulted Knight..."
[IN-STUDIO AUDIO TRANSCRIPT FOLLOWS:]
CR: If you want to kiss white ass, you can do it somewhere else besides this job, I guarantee you that.
RK: Are you saying that she told somebody to call up and say that?
CR: I'm saying that you and she have sought to create an atmosphere in
this place where people feel comfortable doing that. That's what
I'm saying. Now do you want to do the news --
RK: I think that's absolute madness.
CR: Do you want to do the news -- you can think whatever you like. Do you want to do the news or not?
AG: Clayton, did you just call me a white bitch?
CR: I don't think so.
AG: Then you didn't hear --
CR: I don't think so.
AG: Clayton, I want an apology right now.
CR: [inaudible]
AG: Clayton, I want an apology right now.
CR: [inaudible]
AG: Clayton, I want an apology - right now.
CR: Are you demanding one?
AG: Yeah.
CR: Is this your plantation personality to say,
"NIGGER, I want an apology"?
AG: No, Clayton.
CR: Is that what you're saying --
AG: Clayton, you called me --
CR: -- "BOY, I want an apology"?
AG: -- You want, you called me a "white bitch."
RK: She didnt say that!
AG: And I want an apology now.
CR: What are you gonna do, Robert?
AG: I want an apology now.
CR: What are you gonna do, Robert? You want to
continue in radio? -- I was talking to him!
AG: About me, and you called me a "white bitch."
CR: Did you hear me use your name? Maybe I was
talking about "her," maybe I was talking about
HIM. Maybe I was talking about somebody who
was out in the reception area. I didn't use
your name. I'm not that stupid. I know you're used to using, dealing
with your "Nubians" in here, I'm not one of them.
You know -- you, THIS SLAVE, and the rest of your
"NUBIANS" --
RK: SLAVE?! You call me a "slave"!?
[THE ENGINEER LEAVES STUDIO]
CR: Mark, hey Mark!
AG: He's not a part of this. He's not a -- Clayton,
he wouldn't participate in that.
CR: What?
AG: He would not participate in that. He's a man of
dignity and he would not participate.
CR: Ohh, NOW he's a man of dignity. When have you
told him that? When have you said that to him?
Ever?
AG: Clayton... Apologize for calling me a "white
bitch."
CR: Hey! Hey! Hey! What are you gonna do, herd me
over and cut my head off?
AG: Clayton, apologize for calling me a "white bitch."
CR: Hey, you don't make demands of me! [inaudible] Might've been
her, might've been somebody else in here. If I
wanted to talk about you, I'd use your name, cause
there's plenty to say about you. Why'd your staff
kick you out of Washington? How did you get
here in the first place?
[STUDIO "HOT LINE" PHONE STARTS RINGING]
CR: We can play music for the rest of the hour if
you like.
AG: When you use racial epithets you have to go to
music.
CR: He used the racial epithets.
AG: Uhh, YOU used...
RK: The caller, the caller said "nigger in the
woodpile" and you said, "That's one of your
people, Amy!"
["TAKE THE A TRAIN" PLAYS IN BACKGROUND]
CR: Then why did you have to pick up on it?
RK: Because it was unfair, and I'm ethical.
CR: Well, hey, you didn't have to use the term on
the air just because the caller did.
RK: YOU didn't have to blame AMY for that either.
CR: That's none of your business, man.
RK: Of course it's my business.
CR: Why?
RK: Because we're colleagues.
CR: You don't defend me on anything, do you?
RK: What?!
CR: [Voice rising:] You have never defended once
what people have done -- You wanna read this
CRAP? You want to READ THAT? What it says
about YOU AND HER?
THERE'S A SACK OF SHIT IN
THERE
THAT TELL US IT'S ALL RIGHT FOR EVERYBODY
IN THIS MOTHERFUCKER TO INSULT ME
AND YOU DON'T OPEN YOUR MOUTH!!
RK: I HAVE opened my mouth!
CR: BULLSHIT!
AG: We have condemned --
CR: BULL - SHIT!!
??: Actually, I'd like to read that if you don't mind. Can I read it,
Clayton?
AG: Clayton, I want you to apologize for calling me
a "white bitch."
CR: I dont care WHAT you want. [inaudible] We can DIE right
here in this room.
[Knight delivers newscast]
AFTRA STATEMENT
On August 13th, AFTRA was informed by the AFTRA members employed on
Democracy Now! that they could not continue to report to work at the WBAI studios
because they were afraid for their physical safety. Because of the seriousness of the
allegations and AFTRA's strong concern for the members' safety, AFTRA was in
immediate contact with Pacifica management, and together with the AFTRA members
involved, attempted to reach a resolution to the matter. In the course of these
negotiations, Pacifica agreed to take affirmative steps to address the concerns raised
by AFTRA, including the issuance to all personnel -- management and
non-management, paid and unpaid -- of a clear statement affirming that Pacifica
commits to maintaining a workplace that is safe, secure, and free of discrimination,
harassment, intimidation or physical altercation. AFTRA informed Pacifica that
grievances would be filed, but Pacifica agreed to immediately begin an investigation
into the events that led to the members' decision not to return to the WBAI site.
Based upon Pacifica's representations and written assurances of the steps that would
be taken to guarantee worker safety, AFTRA directed the Democracy Now! staff to
report to work in order to fulfil AFTRA's contractual obligations under the no-strike
clause of the collective bargaining agreement
Nevertheless, AFTRA has continued to monitor the situation, and because of certain
events that have subsequently occurred at WBAI, which AFTRA considers
inconsistent with the steps that Pacifica had agreed to take to ensure the safety of the
Democracy Now! staff, AFTRA has notified Pacifica that it is no longer satisfied that
the WBAI studios are a safe and appropriate working environment for the
Democracy Now! staff. AFTRA is in constant contact with the Democracy Now!
staff and Pacifica and the situation is still developing,
This situation has involved volatile, emotional and complex issues, and as such, the
potential for confusion and misinformation is high. AFTRA's primary concern during
this time has been, first, the safety of its members and second, the pursuit of their
rights under the AFTRA collective bargaining agreement. Any information which has
circulated indicating that AFTRA has not, or will not, vigorously pursue the rights of its
members to a safe workplace free of discrimination, harassment, intimidation (physical
or otherwise) is simply inaccurate. AFTRA has not, and will not tolerate unsafe
working conditions for its members.
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WBAI 99.5 FM in New York
WBAI Listener Network
Pacifica Foundation
The Pacifica Campaign
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